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That sounds possible, seeing as Souichirou can steal Dragons and Inue can control him. I wonder why Inue is following Souhaku when she has such a powerful technique. I hope the next chapter shows the relationship between Souhaku and the tournament.solidis1 wrote: So Inue is helping Souhaku build on Souchirou by stealing the strength of other "meat" making Souichirou stronger with every blow, right? Crazy.
The game cocks really only means "fighting chickens" - that is just what they are called. Fighting chickens sounds utterly lame though.solidis1 wrote:Wow. So there was a lot of talk about "meat" and "game cocks" in this chapter.
Not at all; Shidzuru's family has a last name (don't recall off the top of my head, but it is in the script) and that has nothing to do with the Kabuto family. This was a different person that we don't know much about, just got a bit of his back-story. Seeing some of the other people that Souhaku's action effect.solids1 wrote: Seriously though, it seems that the girl Shidzuru could be Kabuto's sister because Inue said that she didn't break like her brother from Souichirou's punch.
I'm pretty sure she is, too bad theres no list of the 36 families. I think every family can learn a variation of a dragons gate (Ex: Dragons Eye > Dragons Pupil). Look at Inue, shes not part of the principal 12 families and she has the "Dragons Roar".EliteF22 wrote:When she goes to try to kick Souhaku a dragons leg is clearly shown. Does this mean her family had a dragon's gate. Maybe they are a branch family. We still don't know what the Kabane's family power is or Kago's.
I thought Kago's power was Necromancy, but that could be a power he is manipulating from the Kabane familiy. The UJ Special said that Kabane had something to do with corpses.The so-called "7 dragons" that live within everyone and govern the powers of Wood, Fire, Metal, Water, Wind and Air
It is different for different people. For some, it is through the study of martial arts, or others meditation, or thought, or emotions, but
Once the "Dragons" have devoured enough "energy" to be invoked, the gate is opened for the first time, and a "power" is born
What about Tetsuhito? He seems to have a better hold of the "Dragon's Plam" than Hotaru, even though he's a white feather and he probably hasn't been practicing it as long as her.MrProphet wrote:Subsequently, we have known only of the Red Feather scions exibiting major or minor Dragon Gate technique. Shin and Aya for Natsume, Souichiro for Nagi, Mataza for his mother family (I don't remember outright, but I think his mother was from one of Shoujou subordinate families, though I may be wrong).
Since Maya (?) was surprised at this as well, I gather it's a plot twist and quite uncommon. Thus, Kagiroi's ability is probably still a mystery for later on.pv82 wrote:What about Tetsuhito? He seems to have a better hold of the "Dragon's Plam" than Hotaru, even though he's a white feather and he probably hasn't been practicing it as long as her.
You mean Shizuru?I agree with you that Shindayuu is probably a White Feather, maybe a Branch of the Kabuto familiy for her fighting ability.
Kentucky Fighting Chickens... I'd buy that...The game cocks really only means "fighting chickens" - that is just what they are called. Fighting chickens sounds utterly lame though.
Huh? Gantz doesn't have that many beaver shots. Mostly boobs.With this chapter, Oogure-sensei must have set a new record for amount of beaver shots in a non-hentai manga, surpassing even Oku Hiroya's Gantz.
Thats probably a profile of Shizuru damaged face. She's not going to be going on too many dates after that. I assume she's still kicking her own face (thanks to Inue) and Nagi is blocking those kicks. It would be messed up if Nagi ends up raping her but then Oh Great is known for through that kind of stuff into the story.Zhou wrote:Agent_Wax wrote:About chapter 79, can anyone tell exactly what is going on in the third panel of page 22?
Yeah, it seems that Oh Great is going for a traditional, clan-based family system for his story. He's definitely got a lot of room for more characters since he's got 36 families to go around with.MrProphet wrote:In eastern cultures, both a woman can marry into a man's family, or vice versa, depending on social standing of the family. Thus, Souichiro is a Nagi, because he is raised by his mother and Souhaku is aparently an outcast.
That's a good point. Moreover, if Tetsuhito possesses the Dragon's Fist, wouldn't that also mean that he got the Dragon's Palm from someone else? I'm sure that would've caused a commotion among the Clans but so far, there's no sign of that. Plus, the only known active user of the Dragon's Palm is currently helping Bob and Makiko get back on their feet.EliteF22 wrote:As for Tetsuhito and Soichirou similarities, I seriously doubt that Tetsuhito is related to Souichirou. If that was the case and Tetsuhito had the Dragon's Fist I don't think Souhaku would have needed Makiko in the first place. The fact that Tetsuhito can probably use multiple dragon gates, doesn't mean he needs to be related with Souichirou. It could just mean that he can use one of the first 7 gates and have the specific 8th gate that the Hotaru family possesses. This is hinted at when Aya first meets him and says that he is different. If he was similar to Souichirou I think she would have said so. The only thing they say that is similar is that they have multiple dragon gates.
Yeah, I thought that too. Maybe while Tetsuhito and Makiko were fighting he cut her arm when she wasn't paying attention. Considering Souhaku's personality, I think it would suit him.pv82 wrote:In the fight that Makiko lost her arm, doesn't it seem like she was fighting both Kago and Tetsuhito. Since Tetsuhito had that tattoo thing on his face, which I assume comes put in moments of intense fighting.
You're right...With this chapter, Oogure-sensei must have set a new record for amount of beaver shots in a non-hentai manga, surpassing even Oku Hiroya's Gantz.
Inue impliedAgent_Wax wrote:And where does it say that Soichiorou would rape her? He was just trying to help her...
And Kabuto, that useless prick, looks like he's finally dead...
We still have some "meat" left over, We'll let him "eat" in another kind of way
That sounds logical, I wonder how long Testuhito will be loyal to Souhaku. He seems like he's not imtimidated like Kabuto, and he's kissing Souhaku ass like Inue. Look at Fight 75, he could have helped Frankie Fu but he did the opposite, and Kabuto got punished. Does anyone feel like Ishiyumi is going to go Kamakaze on Souichirou?kujoe wrote:Well, there was that part with the coffin...
I just got to wondering though... I'm going to be making a wild guess, so I hope you guys don't mind, but what if Souhaku's scheme is to pit Souichirou and Testuhito against each other during the final phase of his plan? Just think of what the winner could possibly gain from that fight. I think it would sort of explain this "game cocks" metaphor.
that would be a stupid move on Ishiyumi part. he barely won the first match he had with nagi and without his dragon there no way in hell he has a chance to win for even min 5. nagi upgraded alot since that time.pv82 wrote:That sounds logical, I wonder how long Testuhito will be loyal to Souhaku. He seems like he's not imtimidated like Kabuto, and he's kissing Souhaku ass like Inue. Look at Fight 75, he could have helped Frankie Fu but he did the opposite, and Kabuto got punished. Does anyone feel like Ishiyumi is going to go Kamakaze on Souichirou?kujoe wrote:Well, there was that part with the coffin...
I just got to wondering though... I'm going to be making a wild guess, so I hope you guys don't mind, but what if Souhaku's scheme is to pit Souichirou and Testuhito against each other during the final phase of his plan? Just think of what the winner could possibly gain from that fight. I think it would sort of explain this "game cocks" metaphor.
Yes, I think that is right. They were expecting him to get some sexual gratification out of her. I thought that was strange; I wouldn't think Nagi would do that - not because he's gay, just because what type of guy goes and rapes someone just because they are in a room together? Then again, I also wouldn't think that he would have fought with random people that they brought in either. I guess they work the situation into a kill or be killed sort of thing.pv82 wrote:Inue impliedAgent_Wax wrote:And where does it say that Soichiorou would rape her? He was just trying to help her...
And Kabuto, that useless prick, looks like he's finally dead...We still have some "meat" left over, We'll let him "eat" in another kind of way
while she was talking to Kago. Now on one side you would probably say hes too much of a good guy to rape her, but this is TenTen and anything goes.
I don't think that is related - those "coffins" have people trapped in them that Souhaku and Inue force to fight with Souichirou. I think you're thinking of the coffin that held Shidzuru, who allowed herself to be captured (remember, Inue was surprised that they were able to capture her) so she could get closer to Souhaku.kujoe wrote:Well, there was that part with the coffin...
... Rape her? One would think "eating" would be in context with previous happenings, as in "eating" someone's powers by beating the crap out of them, not having sexual intercourse with them.Inue implied while she was talking to Kago. Now on one side you would probably say hes too much of a good guy to rape her, but this is TenTen and anything goes.
I wasn't totally being serious on that one. I just think that if Oh! Great was mixing up his motifs, then a coffin would definitely go in line with something like Zombie Fu. Perhaps they're means of restraint or control.FuguTabetai wrote:I don't think that is related - those "coffins" have people trapped in them that Souhaku and Inue force to fight with Souichirou. I think you're thinking of the coffin that held Shidzuru, who allowed herself to be captured (remember, Inue was surprised that they were able to capture her) so she could get closer to Souhaku.
Well, he still has that body of his, right? Didn't Ishiyumi limit himself with those braces back in that chapter? Even though Ishiyumi released his own Water Dragon back then, we didn't exactly get to see his full power. Who knows what he's truly capable of. Now that he has lost his Dragon, I have a feeling that he'll have to rely on his physical abilities more.Rev wrote:that would be a stupid move on Ishiyumi part. he barely won the first match he had with nagi and without his dragon there no way in hell he has a chance to win for even min 5. nagi upgraded alot since that time.
I haven't read the raws with Fugu's translation yet--heck, I just browsed through the raws--but I also find it strange how "eat in another way" could imply something sexual in nature. Were there any foreshadowing clues or anything of that sort that point to this?MrProphet wrote:But she did say, "eat in another way", so I agree that she implied sex. I don't know, maybe it was just wishful thinking on Inue's part, as if she was "giving" Shizuru to Nagi. But the rest was upto Souichirou and like Fugu, I don't think he is that kind of guy.
It starting to turn into a love rubix cube, and its annoying the hell out of me. Less love crap more fighting please.kk1 wrote:Well they did bring her in w/o any pants on...though she's obviously a character to throw into the whole love triangle (square? pentagon? whatever it's up to now)
I thought it just resonated with their powers, though old Takayanagi did say that Shin was using it to control his power (though Bunshichi thought its what gave him his power). Of course that never made sense to me since Maya's dad gave it to her why would she (the only one w/o the Dragon's eye) need it when the other 2 kids are the ones who need it(if it does help control their power).EliteF22 wrote: I'm looking forward to the role Reiki is going to play. Oh! Great has shown that the sword has something to do with the Red Feather's and their abilities.
I think he was just using her and when she became so powerful that she became a threat to him he cut her arm off, maybe also as a way to get her to not raise Souichiro to use his power knowing she would die if she tried to control his power with only one arm( which of course almost happened, rember she told Nagi's dad she tried to raise Souichiro to be normal but couldn't).EliteF22 wrote:I think Souhaku never really planned to use Makiko as a powerful "game cock." I do think he intentionally had Souichirou, knowing that an offspring would probably be stronger. As for cutting off her arm, well if you already got what you want why risk having another "game cock" running around that you don't control. Plus, Souhaku doesn't seem like the compassionate type and porbably has killed his subordinates before, but instead of killing Makiko he just cripples her. That could mean that he does harbor some feelings for her.
I think his father feared that Reiki could possibly trigger his Dragon's Eye. Of course, after the crap that's happened, Shin really had no problem triggering on its own.kk1 wrote:Of course that never made sense to me since Maya's dad gave it to her why would she (the only one w/o the Dragon's eye) need it when the other 2 kids are the ones who need it(if it does help control their power).
Yup, they have the same power. The Dragon's Fist is what the Nagi Clan is known for.kk1 wrote:All these Dragon's and gates have me confused anyway, does Nagi and his mom have the same power? Can she "eat" others powers or just Nagi?
I thought Aya was as tall as Nagi (or a little taller) but Maya was taller than both of them? I know we get Nagi and Bob's heights from that one pic of them in a police lineup and Asshat mentions (or guesses, and accurately I assume) Aya's measurements(smaller than Maya's toosolidis1 wrote:I was upset by that, too but I think it comes from Oh! Great's changing art style. Remember in the first chapter, Nagi is seriously buffed out but sort of looks more "realistic" in Volume 9 and 10. Same with Maya/Aya. They are supposedly only slightly taller than Nagi but in early chapters they are extremely thin. Ok, forget that, obviously the girls are a bad example of proportion but the other point is legit.
I think he gave it to her so that Shin and Aya wouldn't go crazy. That whats great about this manga, most of the powerful dragon abilities come with a price. Dragons Eye seems to make the user insane. Dragons Fist eats away at your body if used in excess. Dragon Palm seems to use stored ki from the injured victim to cure them. I think even the power Kago used hurt him, remember when his spells were broken he suffered a head wound.kk1 wrote:I thought it just resonated with their powers, though old Takayanagi did say that Shin was using it to control his power (though Bunshichi thought its what gave him his power). Of course that never made sense to me since Maya's dad gave it to her why would she (the only one w/o the Dragon's eye) need it when the other 2 kids are the ones who need it(if it does help control their power).EliteF22 wrote: I'm looking forward to the role Reiki is going to play. Oh! Great has shown that the sword has something to do with the Red Feather's and their abilities.