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Interesting last bit about Osaka Castle.... Tokugawa family didn't gain control of the Osaka Castle untill after 1615, which would mean that chapter 90 takes place at least 33 years since Nobunaga's death in chapter 89. But what struck me, is that Aya in the beginning of chapter 89 (page 33) looks a...

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I argee and you are correct Judging by page 80 and page 73, he is indeed Tadaaki, not Ittosai. Author: fugu Language: English: Master Ittousai was recommended to become the fist of the Tokugawa family, but the conditions were that "you obliterate Zenki, who has become a killing demon" ... Jirou, who...

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A more certain reference, please.

So far, I don't remember any link between the True Warrior and the source of the 12 families mentioned in the manga.

MrProphet

DelRey has acquired the rights to Air Gear, so you may soon see this in a Barnes and Noble near you. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pressrelease.php?id=1469 As for the obvious question of edits, well, Del Ray did once threaten to edit Negima, but after some serious pressure from the fandom, they re...

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Oh, and are we certain that Inue is from an offshoot family of the Kago line? Something about the way she clutches his head and the way they were treating severed heads in this chapter just irks me.. When did anyone say that? It's not officially confirmed in any way, but it is somewhat logical. Kag...

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As far as I understood the chapter - he is Itou Ittosai and Tadaaki is mentioned simply in passing. It's hard to judge. Oda Nobunaga died in 1582. We can assume that this chapter takes place some time after that year. Now, in 1582, Ono Tadaaki was 17 years old, while Ittosai was 22. It's more likely...

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I argee. First of all, we shouldn't judge Aya-2 by the standarts of current Natsume sisters. Current Aya is young and still naive, you can't expect all Natsume to be like her. Heck, even Maya has a crazy, mean and devilish streak in her (e.g. Katana-hunting). Secondly, she has lead a terrible life, ...

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Only those who read the text translations, since the "names" don't appear in the finished scanlation.

MrProphet

Another historical reference.

Ono Tadaaki was another real person. He was actually a student of Ito Ittosai and the master-at-arms (fighting instructor, basically) of the Tokugawa Ieyasu's household.

MrProphet

BTW, that "blond" swordsman seem to be Ito Ittosai Kagehisa, the legendary swordsman and founder of Itto-ryu, one of the oldest kenjutsu schools in Japan.

Yet again Oh!great injests real historical figures into his tale.

Read about him here: http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=462

MrProphet

More like... poor Nagi!

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Here you go: http://mrprophet.com/temp/v15c90.zip The chapter is mainly about Aya-2's life as a girl growing up in a brothel. The "death" scene seemed like Aya-2 manifesting her "Dragon Eye" powers of illusion (remember how Dragon Pupil is one aspect of Dragon Eye?). There is also some involvement b...

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TwilightHack wrote:
MrProphet wrote:Looks like there is some serious hanky-panky going on.
Question is though... hanky-panky with who?

That bearded "client" looks like a good candidate. Who knows. We'll see tomorrow, when the chapter hits the net (hopefully).

MrProphet

That's Past Aya.

Maybe kk1 is implying that Aya-1 will "inhabit" the body of Aya-2? It doesn't seem so, so far at least.

MrProphet

Here's another preview image

Looks like there is some serious hanky-panky going on.

MrProphet

The preview is updated monthly at thus URL:

http://www.s-manga.net/mens/uj/tenjou-w.swf

MrProphet

Cloth-bound...

Nothing special about. An editor will always find a way.

MrProphet

OK, finished reading. I am mighty confused about everything, but I think I got the gist of what that travelling man was talking about: So, he is saying that Mitsuhide had the power for some time, but Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyasu bring him down and Mitsuhide dies. Then rumours start about M...

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I too first thought that it was Makiko (refer to discussions of previous chapters), especially when they've showed the ghost leading Aya to a strikingly similar Makiko hanging from that wooden structure. But, no, that's not her. I think the previous chapters establish it rather firmly that she is th...

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Does "Become Gaokishi Takehaya Susano Oumikoto" refer to Takehaya-Susano-oh-no-Mikoto, the Japanese God of Storms (AKA "Susanoo")? The kanji for "Susano-oh" is different from the ones that Oh!great uses, though. But Susano-oh is the one that found the sword Kusanagi-no-tsurugi, that you mention next...

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Just a comment...

å‰æ³•å¸« ("Kippoushi") was actually Oda Nobunaga's childhood name (youmyou), he used it between 1534 and 1549.

So, Akechi Mitsuhide/Kago Souhaku is kind of teasing him, making fun of Nobunaga.

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Remember that Simca figure from some time before? Seem like it resurfaced again. http://www.dannychoo.com/slide/eng/world_hobby_festival/1096/photo/World+Hobby+Festival+%3E+Simuka/ I don't know what it is, could be a recast of the kit, or a new PVC based on the kit. Anyone who wants to buy it will p...

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As far as I can see (obviously, not every image is available), it's the same stuff, just bigger.

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I like the Past Aya mainly because she doesn't look like a typical Oh!great bombshell. Nice to see a normal sized woman in this manga once in a while. 8) It would also be fun if we finally got back to Masataka and his triangle with Aya and Nagi. Maya and Mitsuomi produce fine enough romantic tension...

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Yes, yes, we mustn't cross master kk1, lest he loses his cool and acts like a little immature baby... Oh, wait, didn't he just... 8) No matter! Much better to keep him calm and sedated, trapped in his own world where he has all the answers and always has the last world. Can't have it any other way. ...

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LOL

I don't think I need to say anything at all. As our Latin friends used to tell us: res ipsa loquitur, the thing speaks for itself.

MrProphet

in the mordern age technology and information systems rule battle ability is not really needed with the advent of nuclear weapons, helecopter, tanks the inprovements in mordern tech has rendered RF useless and now they have been forgotten and bieng killed like the ladybugs in the mama nagi and kago...

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No shit sherlock, the 12 families are fictional made up by Oh! Great they're not going to be in the real history, geez you're a...OG is just trying to insert his charcters into something that actually happened :roll: The only thing that is being "inserted" is your own make-believe. Oh!great hasn't ...

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I too was somewhat uncertain if it is him, since Susa looks more muscular than Nobunaga, however, Kagiroi mentions Susa Man as a "shogun". While Oda wasn't The Shogun at the time, he was definitely a general (which the word "shogun" really means). I doubt that you'd see generals in the Bronze age, a...

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Oh, and if they are indeed moths then that can't be Souhaku, right? Emni are a division of the Natsume family, not the Kago family. How would you explain it? I don't see where she was his concubine, that's a whole lot to infer from 2 panels. Yeah. She was naked in his house because she was a friend ...

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LOL Just FYI, archers and spearmen and swordsmen are not the invention of Ishiyumi family, or Tsumuji family, or Mawari family. People have used swords and spears for quite some time. 8) And I have to absolutely argee that a translation of this chapter would help to understand what's going on. Futur...

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Didn't Tetsuhito say, when he was talking with Makiko, that Souhaku said that 'we must surpass the time of 2000 years ago and unite the seperated blood into one'. So that might mean the blood was split at that time or was began to. I believe it was fight 85. Look carefully at what Tetsuhito is sayi...

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Can you point to a chapter where that is noted?

Also, Oh!great is not really know for always sticking to continuity at all costs.

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Err, where does it say that Nobunaga founded the families? I was obviously speculating. However, think of what was shown to us: 1) The girl, Aya-2, got Reiki from Nobunaga. She was his concubine, so she might have gotten a child by him. 2) Natsume now have Reiki, so either they must have gotten it ...

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Well, we knew that Kago gate had something to do with necromancy (hence, Frankie Fu), so him prolonging his own life and Kagiroi's was not unexpected. But you'd think that Dougen would take note of this, no? Also, it would be interesting to see, if the 12 Families were formed from Nobunaga's other i...

MrProphet

Ugh... pleeeease... we've had enough Nagi Dragonball already!!!!

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TJTG came out in 1998... But I doubt will have an extended past-past arc, since there won't be Maya or Mitsuomi or any other main character, so Oh!great wouldn't do it. I mean, we all thought he's going to do an extended flashback on Souhaku/Makiko story, but he only used Aya as a plot device to exp...

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The girl could be the ancestor of Natsume. Since Aya can see the past through her ghost form, she could have went back to see how the whole mess started. If Takayanagi are indeed the scions of Oda family (weird, but not impossible), it could also explain why Maya and her boy-toy were arguing about R...

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I wonder if the sword that Nobunaga's concubine was holding is actually the original Reiki....

Seems like the frills were stripped over the years, but the actual blade is the same.

PS It was funny how Nobunaga though that Souhaku was Akechi Mitsuhide...

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She doesn't, since Aya can't channel any more ki to Maya through Reiki. There is no need to fight, and anyway, she was in no condition to hold it.

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Here it is, my friends. 8) http://mrprophet.com/temp/v15c89.zip And yes, the warrior with the fan is Oda Nobunaga. But he is also the same general, who raped that girl and sired Kagiroi's ancestor. BTW, you wouln't believe the way it ended. 8) The good news is - Maya is alive, although barely so. An...

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We don't know.

MrProphet

Oda Nobunaga is really popular as far as Evil Villains go. He is all over the place...

PS Oh, and Nobunaga wasn't killed. He commited suicide when surrounded.

MrProphet

Oh!great owns the author's rights, as those are inalienable. Shueisha can't publish Tenjou Tenge under any name but his own. However, Shueisha owns the copyright and this was always the case with manga. Notable examples of this is Yasuhiro Nightow not being able to call his work "Trigun" when he swi...

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Yeah, it's that general allright. The girl on the side looks like the one he raped... Somewhat. We'll see tomorrow.

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If by 'action' you mean actual sex, then no... Ikki hasn't been getting any at all. And neither have any of the rest, as far as I've read it. So, unlike TJTG, there is only fanservice... no real thing. As for the plot, it's your typical shounen. The series has been staggering ever since Ikki formed ...

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Sorry, moy, I almost never read other portions of the forum.

And as for fanservice... there's been more nudity in AG than in TJTG by a very wide margin. There is a bath scene or a girl undressing for loosing a match at least once in every couple of chapters...

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OMFG... cue for a really bad plot rants. OK, not really, but while TJTG really puts its intellectual component first, AG is all about action and fanservice, to put it mildly I hope they animate it well, I really do. Something edgier and more coherent than that crappy Madhouse production of Tenjou Te...

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