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question about F, red feathers the phoenix etc

Post by SOUHAKU » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:44 pm

hi
i m almost finished with reading the mange just 8 chapters left.
but i think i m confused. 1.why was F founded did we get any info about that?
2.any info about there goals. as i did get it souhaku is the leader.
3.what r the red feather's and the phoenix. how much of any of these
4.clan like things r there?
5. what is that big monster who did it with many women?
why did that thing did that? was that thing controlled by souhaku?
where did it come from? if i m not wrong the F was shown like its unter the enforcement group,
but later it exposes that F is controlling the E.G.
6. why did the 100 year war started? cuz souhaku did that kind of things?
7. r the red feathers enemies?
8. is / was souhaku in any of the feathers?

i would be really glad if u guys would answer these questions and
tell me if my suppositions r correct.

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Post by Testament » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:11 pm

My point of view:

1. F are the group that Sohaku provide Mitsumi, although the F members consist of the Takayanagi 12 Generals that support the Takayanagi original.
2. Original follow Mitsumi, as long as Sohaku says... but since the group seems to be disbanded as group F, they follow each of their own path of beliefs.
3. Red feathers have special abilities on the day of their birth. Although not all know they have the special ability. The phoenix is a mythic fire bird born out of the ash, use google for further information. If you mean the meaning in the story, it have some... as for Mitsumi, as for the Takayanagi Emblem,...
4. 12 Founding families, but there a more than these 12. I never bother to count how many appeared. But there are at least 36 branch families along with the 12 founding families.
5. What big monster? A human maybe? (Maybe you should use google and look after Izanami and Izanangi)
- F was a group that help Mitsumi, but isn't exactly in the E.G. so not sure what you mean by F controlling E.G.
6. Fate by cruel gods... maybe because there would be no story...why do humans start wars anyways?
7. Enemies to who? There are some who consider our main protagonist as enemies, but there are some who are allies and protagonist themselves. Best example Aya and Maya are red feathers and even Nagi.
8. He is consider as the one and only of the Kago family. The Kago family is one of the founding family.

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Re: question about F, red feathers the phoenix etc

Post by kk1 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:26 pm

SOUHAKU wrote:hi
i m almost finished with reading the mange just 8 chapters left.
but i think i m confused. 1.why was F founded did we get any info about that?
2.any info about there goals. as i did get it souhaku is the leader.
3.what r the red feather's and the phoenix. how much of any of these
4.clan like things r there?
5. what is that big monster who did it with many women?
why did that thing did that? was that thing controlled by souhaku?
where did it come from? if i m not wrong the F was shown like its unter the enforcement group,
but later it exposes that F is controlling the E.G.
6. why did the 100 year war started? cuz souhaku did that kind of things?
7. r the red feathers enemies?
8. is / was souhaku in any of the feathers?

i would be really glad if u guys would answer these questions and
tell me if my suppositions r correct.

sry for my english
1-keep reading
2-keep reading
3-keep reading
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5-keep reading
6-keep reading
7-keep reading
8-keep reading

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Post by SOUHAKU » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:42 am

1. thx for ur answer..
2. what do u mean by keep readign i dont think that the last 8 chapter's will add any further important info's cuz the war has begun.
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Post by DemonNeedle » Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:31 pm

SOUHAKU wrote:1. thx for ur answer..
2. what do u mean by keep readign i dont think that the last 8 chapter's will add any further important info's cuz the war has begun.
Technically, the war hasn't started yet. You have to keep reading through the rest of the chapters to see what happens, then you'll probably understand.

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Post by SOUHAKU » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:30 pm

thx guys i will let u know when i m finished
and i really would never expect that info
that is so important is being told in the end
i think its an unusal case in mangas.
thx u very much for twice
i really do appreciate it
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Post by kk1 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:01 pm

SOUHAKU wrote:1. thx for ur answer..
2. what do u mean by keep readign i dont think that the last 8 chapter's will add any further important info's cuz the war has begun.

Well through what fight have you read? 105? further? All your questions were answered earlier than that, maybe you just need to re-read those chapters again, it was all pretty clear.

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Post by SOUHAKU » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:28 pm

i red till 117 i need a link to be able to read further
my site just has 117 chapter's translated.
soo..
1) the ture warrior is mitsuomi?.. he isnt one now
2) and masataka wants to stop him and souichiro also,right?
3) souichiro's eye is out. tis taken back from the F (?) to
awaken souhaku again?
3) whats souhaku dong in chapter 117? where makiko wakes up.
4) do souichiro masataka maya and so on want to stop F either?
but how no1 is at souhaku.
5) and if i m right the E.G wants to create the true warrior?
of course some underlings like isuzu dont want it.
but i have read that mitsuomi wanted to bring peace.
6) does he wants to do it by getting rid of all red feather powers?
7) if yes, was he going to do it by getting all them by himself?
is some1 controlling mitsuomi just now (117)?
a woman voice came or something like that..

so these r all of my uestions now ^^
thx for helpming me out
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Post by DemonNeedle » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:09 pm

1. Dougen wanted to make Mitsuomi the True Warrior two years ago, but his plan backfired, which resulted in his three minute condition. Currently, they have mentioned Souichiro, Masataka, Bob, and Mitsuomi's Enforcement Group as being True Warriors, but there isn't a definite answer to the question.
2. Masataka wants to stop Mitsuomi and his plan since his plan involves a bunch of people dying. Souichiro wants Masataka to stop him in case he doesn't gain control over his body.
3. Souhaku's eye is in Souichiro's right eye socket which also contains Souhaku's soul. We don't know what happened to Souichiro's plucked eye.
4. As far as I know, all of the main characters want to stop Souhaku and his plan, but I don't know "how no1 is at Souhaku"
5. The Enforcement Group is the group that basically controls the student body and how it should be run. Since Mitsuomi's the current president of the group, they are basically following whatever he says.
6. Mitsuomi wants to rid the world of red feather power. Dougen is the one that wants to gather all of the red feather power into 'one form' so he could control it and use it for his own purposes.
7. That wasn't 117. That was around seven or eight chapters ago where Mitsuiro was the one that really fought Bunshichi. As far as we know, no one is controlling Mitsuomi.

I hope that answers all of your questions.

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Post by kk1 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:16 am

True warrior is unknown. Masataka and Maya's group just want to stop Mitsuomi. Souhaku is immortal and can switch bodies by transfering his eye Inue put it into Souichiro after Mitsuomi cut his head off. Don't know what Souhaku is doing in 117, looks like a flashback. F is gone they were just puppets of Souhaku. EG just supports Mitsuomi. Yes Mitsuomi wants to rid the world of red feathers by starting a war, because he knows he will die soon, so he needs his followers to continue with his plan. You must have missed that Shyoujyou has been impersonating Mitsuomi lately because he is so weak and close to death.

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Post by SOUHAKU » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:01 am

thx for ur answers.
did mitsuomi apply with shyoujyou dong that?
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Post by kk1 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:03 am

SOUHAKU wrote:thx for ur answers.
did mitsuomi apply with shyoujyou dong that?
Shyoujyou is a girl and doesn't have a dong

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Post by SOUHAKU » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:18 pm

umm... i m sry i meant doing not dong.
i m not a guy to speak about something like that.
beside i didnt know the meaning (im german).
after u have said dong i looked after it.
dont think as a pervert for me. ^^
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Post by kk1 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:51 pm

SOUHAKU wrote:umm... i m sry i meant doing not dong.
i m not a guy to speak about something like that.
beside i didnt know the meaning (im german).
after u have said dong i looked after it.
dont think as a pervert for me. ^^
thx
Just joking, yes Mitsuomi arranged for Shyoujyou to impersonate him because he is going to die soon so she would carry on as him with only his innercircle knowing the truth. And too late only perverts read Tenjho Tenge :wink:

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Post by SOUHAKU » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:59 pm

only? i did it cuz i have heard about the awesome story..
btw u r fast ^^ u r helping me as fast as u can, he? ^^
give me ur email and we'll speak about it faster. xD
just a joke. i m never on i dont like to speak for hour's
i m chatting in games or just in forums like this one to help
our to get help. thx again
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Post by Testament » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:35 am

If you are german I hope you buy the volumes out in germany... and after your second block of questions I am asking myself too if you really read the manga :s
Or is the german translation so bad?
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Post by Strangler » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:37 pm

Or is the german translation so bad?
That's fairly possible.
French translation scares me when I read it... So I can think the same is possible.

Honestly, I mainly rely on Fugu, people's brainstorming here... And that's all.
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Post by hlcws » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:29 pm

Testament wrote:If you are german I hope you buy the volumes out in germany... and after your second block of questions I am asking myself too if you really read the manga :s
Or is the german translation so bad?
The translation is ok, but the translators are ultra-slow.

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Post by Testament » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:43 pm

hlcws wrote:
Testament wrote:If you are german I hope you buy the volumes out in germany... and after your second block of questions I am asking myself too if you really read the manga :s
Or is the german translation so bad?
The translation is ok, but the translators are ultra-slow.
Compared to what?
If I am not wrong they are quite fast... Don't mistake volume with chapter, because the chapter will always be faster out in the magazine than the complete volume in the bookstore. And the publisher in other countries take the volumes as basic. At least you say the translation is ok... CMX Version (publisher in USA) edit TT images :roll:
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Post by hlcws » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:47 pm

That's another factor.
But yes, it's good that they dont't censor.
And from the speed it seems that they wait for a full volume before they start translating.

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Post by SOUHAKU » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:41 pm

umm.. to be hoenest i m not gonna buy any volume..
i wont pay for something like that ^^ (even if its awesome)
another point is im not reading the manga in german...
if i would, then i would ask in a german forum right?
i m reading it in english so my english becomes/ better. (i hope)
and till now the manga's i have read / i m reading did help me alot.
of course that doesnt/shouldnt mean that i m able to understand much
and that i m as good as u. i know that i m worse...
of course i m not able to understand few things or maybe many,
but in the end it helps me out in school and real life. xD
no offense jsut wanted to answer u.
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