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curiosity of chapters 68 and up

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:14 pm
by TW_J
can someone actually tell me when souichirou ever makes an appearance after he gets kidnapped by souhaku??!! its really been itching me lol i hear soo much of souhaku and the "F" group and yet it still puzzles me all i heard so far from what kurei said was that they are using souichirou as a trump card can some one please clarify if souichirou makes an appearance anytime soon after chapter 68??

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:25 pm
by Enforcer
I don't think so... Don't recall seeing him in further chapters. But then again, since I only have the raws, I can't make much sense of what they are all saying and if they are referring to him in some way.
Am curious, though, how he will come out of all this... stronger, badder, evil? time will tell... :)

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:03 pm
by TW_J
well like i sed here is my theory

souichirou will be back stronger but like wat kurei said he's the F group's trump card meaning he'll probably end up as souhaku's puppet

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:33 pm
by chumsy
ok this chapter confused me a bit on page 145 she cries after beating bob down the first time? and then she stops herself the second time on page 160

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:45 pm
by FuguTabetai
Marawai Madoka is pretty clearly schizophrentic, and definitely a bit crazy. Possibly a bit because of Bob's earlier "sexual harrassment" but regardless in chap 70 (or maybe 71, I forget) we see a bit more about Madoka's back story, and it doesn't surprise me that she would be ... a bit crazy.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:58 am
by chumsy
nevertheless she does seem like a pretty awsome character. btw wouldnt chapter 70 be like in volume 12? darn i was hoping to see masataka battle but it looks like its not happening in this volume. oh and at www.sasugabooks.com it says that theres volume 12 but it costs 42$ rather than 8 is that real??

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:42 am
by Dembol
It's so expensive because it comes with Aya statue.

And speaking of ch. 68 I really liked it. We've finally seen a glimpse of Bob's potential.
But I don't quite understand why Isuzu says that "F" is a nuisance for Mitsuomi??

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 3:30 am
by Rooster
But I don't quite understand why Isuzu says that "F" is a nuisance for Mitsuomi??
Because Isuzu thinks (and rightly so) that the F aren't following his orders. Mitsuomi declared a truce between their factions until the tournament but they haven't exactly done that, since they have their own agenda.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:34 am
by chumsy
hmm but i thought volume 11 was just recently released so that means 12 is out also?

oh and it kinda looks like bob went easy on her. looks as if he missed his punch on purpose.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 5:48 am
by Rooster
Almost makes me feel like a doubleposter...

Volume 12 is not out, the volumes collect ~6 chapters of the manga which is serialized in a magazine. Volume 12 will be available in August or around then.

And no he didn't go easy on her, she moved her head.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 8:10 am
by kujoe
Nice to see Bob in action. Finally, the big guy gets his chance in the spotlight.

However, I wonder if Mitsuomi is still interested in getting Bob to join the enforcement group. I kinda thought that his previous invitation was just a relatively minor occurrence within the story, but it seems that Mitsuomi really wants him on his side.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:38 am
by TakCWAL
Hehehehe, it seemed like Oh! Great had a bit too much fun with Soul Calibur :)

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:41 pm
by burrowowl
kujoe wrote:Nice to see Bob in action. Finally, the big guy gets his chance in the spotlight.

However, I wonder if Mitsuomi is still interested in getting Bob to join the enforcement group. I kinda thought that his previous invitation was just a relatively minor occurrence within the story, but it seems that Mitsuomi really wants him on his side.
People have been assuming that the arrival of the greatest fighter of the Jyukenbo's history was Nagi Souichiro. But we don't really know that. If you look back at the descriptions given by the various Takayanagis about what the true warrior is, Bob fits the description about as well as anybody, and better than any of the folks with "dragon" abilities (Souichiro included).

And I agree with the viewpoint that Madoka moved her head. Other than the fact that he missed her, there is no indication that he was actively holding back against her. And who could blame her for moving out of the way of a punch like that? :)

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 3:21 pm
by Rooster
Even if I do recognize the fact that the body will remember the fruits of hard training when the mind is blank, I still found it a bit irritating when Bob started breakdancing after he was terrified.

I'm more interested in Tawara's(?) comment to Mitsuomi: "You only need one more feather to complete your 'true wings'".

What are the "true wings"? Who are the other feathers? Isuzu and co? Bah. The F? Real quality material for someone's "true wings".

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:09 pm
by Mazus
Breakdancing? :?

You do know Capoeira is his fighting style right?

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:09 pm
by Saito
Wasn't Mitsuomi refering to Bob ?

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:19 pm
by Dembol
It wasn't breakdancing. Bob uses Capoeira fighting style. Many of its moves looke like dancing and involve stadning on your hands and spinning.

True wings may be a compilation of remaining families members and some other people who Mitsuomi is planning to add to this group. Bob?? Isuzu??

Oh!Great really started to twist the plot recently. Looks like the manga may run for a looooong time.
And Tawara sucks at chess.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:44 pm
by Rooster
Either my sense of humour is hard to interpret or people are taking me for a complete jackass... Oh well.

Saito, it's possible since those bubbles can be Mitsuomi's thoughts or Tawara's comments isolated since he isn't in the picture. I can't find any sense if it's Mitsuomi -> Bob though.

Dembol: I'm not sure about the remaining family members and others. A 'member' of the "true wings" sounds like a hardcore supporter of Mitsuomi, and unless the author throws another group at us out of his hat, there hasn't been much of them. Or, strong ones at that.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:02 pm
by TakCWAL
Not your fault Rooster, its just that there are always people on internet forums who are just SOOOOOO eager to prove the size of their virtual schlong :P

Only to find themselves missing a critical part of -fun-
Then again, they might have been intentional

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:03 am
by Banorac
chumsy wrote:nevertheless she does seem like a pretty awsome character. btw wouldnt chapter 70 be like in volume 12? darn i was hoping to see masataka battle but it looks like its not happening in this volume. oh and at www.sasugabooks.com it says that theres volume 12 but it costs 42$ rather than 8 is that real??
42$ ???

Damn, the prices are escalating, it was just 23* a month ago :?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:16 am
by TakCWAL
Just order them from overseas, or amazon JP.

It makes all the trouble go away :)

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:17 am
by Banorac
that doesn't take care of the import costs, does it ?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:40 am
by TakCWAL
I am sure it wouldn't accumulate to $42, buddy.

EMS cost 10 bucks to ship, and if you order more, its cheaper.

Actually, I tell my friend in Japan to order manga for me, and the shipping had been around $10-20 for every 10 (the most I've ever ordered) manga. I'd say its a pretty good deal, for me at least.

Even air mail, works, and its cheaper. Its REALLY not that expensive, there is no way a single volume could accumulate upt o $42 bucks even with shipping. Thats ridiculous.

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:52 am
by Banorac
There's the problem of me not having a credit card, but I'll be 18 in twelve days, so that won't be a problem for long.
If they weren't able to order it in the mangashop I ordered it, or if it'll cost me too much, I'd most likely order it on the net.... But I'd need a good place to order it from, one that can be trusted ...

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:02 pm
by TakCWAL
As I said, Amazon JP :)

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:19 pm
by Banorac
I don't speak Japanese, when I click 'display in english' it just shifts into other Japanese :?

And do they ship to Belgium ?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:57 pm
by TakCWAL
I am sure they ship to Europe and Belgium, for that matter :p

Unless Belgium is a third world country that only makes choclates :p :P :P

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:19 am
by kujoe
Rooster wrote:Even if I do recognize the fact that the body will remember the fruits of hard training when the mind is blank, I still found it a bit irritating when Bob started breakdancing after he was terrified.
Funny, I also found it kinda irritating too--just a bit however. I don't know, but maybe because I found it somewhat predictable, or maybe typical even? Well, it is capoeira after all but whatever. Sorry, I just can't put it into proper words. It's not really a big deal though.

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:52 am
by pv82
TakCWAL wrote:Just order them from overseas, or amazon JP.

It makes all the trouble go away :)
That's the only way Ive been able to get Ten Ten stuff. BTW, I think your 13 warrior Signature is cool :) . I have that soundbite some where in my MP3's

Banorac senpai, you need to get a Card. I don't see any other way they would do buisness with you, unless you used money order but money order can be difficult at times. :( . I don't reall like amazon JP, the prices are kind of steep. Volume 12 is still going for 2980 Yen at Mangaoh. You'll probaly pay 10-15$ for EMS but trust me its worth it if you want your stuff fast. I think 42$ for Vol. 12 is just too much, that doesn't even include shipping. I got 3 on order and I was thinking about cashing in on ebay but since eveyone is on the TenTen bandwagon now that anime is out and more people will end up buying more copies of this volume than Vol. 9, I don't see my self making as much as the Vol.9 figure is making. Also, I don't really like this statue that much, Aya looks like she's just staring out blanky into space :shock: like she's mentally challenged. The Dragon is cool.

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:36 am
by TakCWAL
"BTW, I think your 13 warrior Signature is cool . I have that soundbite some where in my MP3's"

Yeah man, I love eaters of the dead. They don't make many viking movies, a pity, such great mythology, too :( I like it way better than the Greeks :P

Ok, my obsession with Valkyries needs to stop...


OOOOODDDDDIIIIINNNNNNN !! ! ! ~ ~ ~ ~

Too much valkyrie profile... too much.

n

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:23 pm
by Banorac
pv82 wrote:
TakCWAL wrote:Just order them from overseas, or amazon JP.

It makes all the trouble go away :)
That's the only way Ive been able to get Ten Ten stuff. BTW, I think your 13 warrior Signature is cool :) . I have that soundbite some where in my MP3's

Banorac senpai, you need to get a Card. I don't see any other way they would do buisness with you, unless you used money order but money order can be difficult at times. :( . I don't reall like amazon JP, the prices are kind of steep. Volume 12 is still going for 2980 Yen at Mangaoh. You'll probaly pay 10-15$ for EMS but trust me its worth it if you want your stuff fast. I think 42$ for Vol. 12 is just too much, that doesn't even include shipping. I got 3 on order and I was thinking about cashing in on ebay but since eveyone is on the TenTen bandwagon now that anime is out and more people will end up buying more copies of this volume than Vol. 9, I don't see my self making as much as the Vol.9 figure is making. Also, I don't really like this statue that much, Aya looks like she's just staring out blanky into space :shock: like she's mentally challenged. The Dragon is cool.
Yeah, I was planning on getting a card anyway for my future webcomic ^^

But I'm still going to ask at the manga shop if they could order it, tthough I won't buy it there if it's going to be over 50

Re: n

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:38 pm
by pv82
Banorac wrote:
By the way, not that I mind but, you really don't *have* to call me senpai ... Though it's kinda funny ^^
I only did it cause you asked :D . Ill stop, I imagine it freaks Kujoe out also.

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:40 pm
by TakCWAL
"And read the manwha Ragnar

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:09 pm
by chumsy
the ragnarok manwha is totally different from the anime and game even though it came first. well i have up to 10 volumes of it and its pretty good

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:14 pm
by kujoe
pv82 wrote:
Banorac wrote:
By the way, not that I mind but, you really don't *have* to call me senpai ... Though it's kinda funny ^^
I only did it cause you asked :D . Ill stop, I imagine it freaks Kujoe out also.
Yeah, it does. :) I just think it's weird, that's all.

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:15 am
by Banorac
[quote="TakCWAL"]"And read the manwha Ragnar

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:45 pm
by TakCWAL
Meh, too bad I can't read Korean though :9

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:26 pm
by Banorac
Ever heard of official translation releases ? :twisted:

Like this ...

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:46 pm
by solidis1
Hold on just a sec. I've read up to chapter sixty-five, right after Souchirou' mom loses her other arm. Then I found the chapter where Madoka first fights Bob and all that, I think this is like sixty-eight or something. What happened to Souichirou and the rest between these two events? I can't seem to find the chapters that go between them.

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:00 pm
by TakCWAL
Banorac wrote:Ever heard of official translation releases ? :twisted:

Like this ...
Mein gott! Thats 10 bucks per book! Thats crazy! I can't afford the English version! LOL. See, thats why I buy books from overseas, because they cheap, and I can read them, but I can't read THIS! :(

As for the movie with Tim Roberts? Nah, I am not into viking comedy :P
I was looking for something along the lines of Valkyrie Profile :P

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:01 pm
by FuguTabetai
solidis1 wrote:Hold on just a sec. I've read up to chapter sixty-five, right after Souchirou' mom loses her other arm. Then I found the chapter where Madoka first fights Bob and all that, I think this is like sixty-eight or something. What happened to Souichirou and the rest between these two events? I can't seem to find the chapters that go between them.
Did you check the downloads page because everything up to chapter 68 is there.

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:34 pm
by Banorac
TakCWAL wrote:
Banorac wrote:Ever heard of official translation releases ? :twisted:

Like this ...
Mein gott! Thats 10 bucks per book! Thats crazy! I can't afford the English version! LOL. See, thats why I buy books from overseas, because they cheap, and I can read them, but I can't read THIS! :(

As for the movie with Tim Roberts? Nah, I am not into viking comedy :P
I was looking for something along the lines of Valkyrie Profile :P
Can't say I've seen it ... Ragnarok has also been translated into French, they're 'far less' expensive, about 6-8

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:54 pm
by EliteF22
I've got some questions about chapter 68 and newer. Did Maya go to just visit Souichirou's mom or is she also going to look for him? Doesn't it seem like Aya's backing off of Souichirou a little bit? I know most people don't like this, but I can totally picutre Souichirou and Maya together.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:37 pm
by TakCWAL
Aya is already in love with him, while Maya sees in him her brother's shadow.

As far as I am concerned they are both in love with the guy.

Ah, anime, how wonderful...

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:53 pm
by solidis1
Thanks Fugu got the next chapters

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:04 pm
by Tachibana
Maya went to get Souichirou back because she needs him to fight for her. as like they all say, Souichirou's the trump card in all this. though i don't know what that means, but i'm guessing it's something about his exorcist heritage. and I don't think the Maya and Souichirou thing will happen, she's just probably trying to prevent him from being the next Shin.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:15 pm
by sword
maya should get back together with mitsuomi :x

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:23 pm
by chumsy
man whuts up with mitsoumi. he totally ignores his younger brothers fights. i think masataka is plenty strong already. i would like to see a brother to brother match

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:26 pm
by kujoe
sword wrote:maya should get back together with mitsuomi
It's kind of amusing how one's opinions change over time. Right now I prefer Mitsuomi and Isuzu, unlike before. There doesn't seem to be much of a development though.

With regard to Maya and Souichirou--so far, I think she's more drawn to him as a big sister, and not as a woman in love. In my opinion, that's the closest it can get for the both of them at this point.

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:16 am
by EliteF22
A little off topic, but I loved Souichirou's reponse to Asshat giving chibi Maya a kiss on the forehead.