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Hell Yes! (vol. 14 cover)

Post by MrProphet » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:05 pm

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A Maya cover for a Maya volume! I am SOOO pleased.

And the next chapter just can't come any sooner! 8)

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Post by Sota » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:18 pm

sexy cover hell yes!!!!!!!

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Post by Hollowshingami » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:14 pm

Nice. 8) Less than a week till the next chapter.

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Post by MitsandMayaFan » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:07 pm

Wow I like that!!! Can't wait for the next chapter!!!!

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Post by kk1 » Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:01 am

Nice, but I don't like the angel wing looking things, is that a subtle confirmation of our worst fears about the last chapter.

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Post by EliteF22 » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:24 am

Is that Mitsuomi in the background? Why does he look like he just got crucified?

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Post by puppetmaster » Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:29 am

Ah, want a big scan from this, looks hot like hell from what I see so far

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Post by Agent_Wax » Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:47 am

Is that Mitsuomi in the background? Why does he look like he just got crucified?
Yes. The 'wings' are designs on his outfit. I swear, he dresses like such a man-stripper these days...

I remember back when he was such a sweet innocent boy...
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Post by protocol7 » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:58 pm

lovely indeed. need to get a bigger version though.

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Post by kujoe » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:13 am

Oh my sweet Jesus. I am so liking that cover.

Btw, is that large thing in the lower right portion Mitsuomi's hand?

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Post by MrProphet » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:24 am

It looks like the tank of his chopper.

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Post by Vampire Advent » Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:31 am

kk1 wrote:Nice, but I don't like the angel wing looking things, is that a subtle confirmation of our worst fears about the last chapter.
Hope not hope Maya lives but if she but if she does it would take some bad BS no jutsu to achieve or maybe Oh great can pull it off without like like total BS.

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Post by laboo2 » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:55 am

great odin's raven!!!.... that's pretty hot.... and i'm a girl... so in actuality, it must be pretty effing hot for a guy...

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Post by Hariel0079 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:20 am

Definetly like it, and interesting to say the least on the appearance of how Maya looks, almost is if the cover is trying to give a "hidden message"
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Post by Dominant Star » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:26 am

Is that a wing on Maya's back???

geez... she's a deadmeat then... :(
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Post by Dembol » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:20 pm

Great cover!

Maybe Oh!Great just wants us to think that Maya died?

If she died that would be bad for us (the fans), but Oh!Grat would gain a lot of my praise. Maybe It's weird but I like authors who aren't afraid to kill their important characters if needed (or if such was their plan) without caring about fans response. It's nothing worse than characters being miraculously saved from death again and again (like in Naruto). :evil:

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Post by puppetmaster » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:38 pm

Naruto is an extreme case, though.
But you're right. Might have been hard but at least Gaara should have died now.All the others which survived their deadly wounds I can connive, but that was crap.

The difference between Naruto and TenTen in this case though is that Shin already died, well he was no good guy but that doesn't count. AND the others until now weren't in a Situation jet where they were near death (if I remind correct)
So if she would servive it wouldnt leave a bad taste as it did with Gaara in Naruto.

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Post by EliteF22 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:00 pm

If Maya really did die, it would free up Mitsuomi for Isuzu for his remaining time left. Also, Soichurou would be free for Shizuru or Aya(please God no). But it just seems so sudden. There's some major unresolved issues still with Maya, like the whole Election Tournament.

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Re: Hell Yes! (vol. 14 cover)

Post by Natsume Maya » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:24 pm

Natsume Danjou Maya.
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Post by EliteF22 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:00 pm

Yeah, Mitsuomi is crucified. It seems more like the cover is alluding that Mitsuomi will die. He and the background have that blue ethereal tint, whereas Maya is in full color.

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Post by Sleepy Weasel » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:12 pm

on a posative note. maya looks very much alive on the cover :)

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Post by MrProphet » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:59 pm

People... this is a cover for VOLUME 14. Of course Maya is alive in it.

I don't know where you've been getting the thought that the cover is telling us something about future events or is foreshadowing something, but can you please stop and think about the plot of volume 14 and the fact that the cover symbolises NOTHING beyond what happened in volume 14?

Wooh... that was long. But really now!

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Post by protocol7 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:24 pm

well everyone says too little death in manga is bad.SERIOUSlY oh!great kiled shin and man 2 people.

besides the villans like in the other mangas the death count aint so high

naruto and bleach are more general manga pg 13 types too much death is bad for business

tenjo tenge is a teen manga and the death count isnt very hign comparing it to something like gantz

come on if u live 20 pages in gantz u're a hero

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Post by Sleepy Weasel » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:16 pm

chapter 82 - 87 = volume 14. so everythnig we have seen happen so far will be in it ^^

so IF the cover was forshadowing anything (and that is an IF not saying it is) its looking good for maya >_<

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Post by kk1 » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:15 am

Sleepy Weasel wrote:chapter 82 - 87 = volume 14. so everythnig we have seen happen so far will be in it ^^

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Yeah, if Maya dies it the last chapter of this volume.

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Post by Hariel0079 » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:51 am

MrProphet wrote:People... this is a cover for VOLUME 14. Of course Maya is alive in it.

I don't know where you've been getting the thought that the cover is telling us something about future events or is foreshadowing something, but can you please stop and think about the plot of volume 14 and the fact that the cover symbolises NOTHING beyond what happened in volume 14?

Wooh... that was long. But really now!
Aww, what's wrong.. Prophy will be sad if Maya dies.. don't worry she wont be really dead.. pencil, paper, and a little ink and she'll be re-drawn good as new. :P
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Re: Hell Yes! (vol. 14 cover)

Post by kk1 » Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:37 am

Natsume Maya wrote:Larger pic:
Now that I see the larger pic, Mits just looks too weird in that pic especially his weirdly proportioned arms.

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Post by EliteF22 » Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:47 am

That maybe due more to the angle of his body, but yeah i have to agree, over the last few chapters his body looked disgusting.

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Post by MrProphet » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:51 am

Hariel0079 wrote:Aww, what's wrong.. Prophy will be sad if Maya dies.. don't worry she wont be really dead.. pencil, paper, and a little ink and she'll be re-drawn good as new. :P
Huh? I think you are talking with yourself there...

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Post by MrProphet » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:50 pm

Just skimmed through volume 14.

WOW... what the hell? Oh!great changed A LOT of images, and if I am not mistaken, some of the story. Chapters 82 and 83 were redrawn extensively, and there were additional scenes during Maya/Kagiroi fight.

Young Mama Nagi and young Souhaku were very cute together. 8)

Cool. I hope someone will actually translate the tankoubon as well.

In the meantime, I am uploading it to http://www.mrprophet.com/temp/tjtg14.zip Check it out.

PS The extra artwork is: Nagi cover, Isuzu cover (from another UJ) and a new Nagi insert. The comic is cute, as usual. 8)

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Post by Dembol » Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:33 pm

Whoo! The volume's much better than the monthly releases. When I was reading the UJ chapters I always felt they're a bit out of place and that there was something missing (now maybe it'll be a better read...judging by the images story "flows" in a better way). The pinups are absolutely gorgeous (especially the one with Maya, Aya & Isuzu) and I really need to get that alternative cover cause it's absolutely gorgeous.

New additions to the volume itself are quite amazing - Maya vs Tetsu-guy fight was improved (didn't check that, but it seems longer). Young Makiko/Souhaku part is also nice. I also like the drawing of the characters as puppets.

I guess I know what I'll be ordering next from Japan :)

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Post by shouki » Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:40 pm

Wow, vol 14 has like 20 heavily re-done or entirely new pages! I guess that's why we had such a big break between fight 87 and fight 88.

Hmm, does Oh Great have a ladybird obsession...? I'm not aware of them having any particular special meaning (legends or anyway).

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Post by Sleepy Weasel » Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:24 pm

wasn't there a note by oh great in chap 88 saying he had revised volume 14. but did not want to ever do it again?

btw.. wow.. he really did change a ton of stuff, its like at least a whole new chapter. I wonder if he changed the story a bit. I noticed on the new panels maya did not seem to be in anywhre near as bad as shape as the original version (until the end of 87 at least).

and very nice scans MrProphet!

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Post by Asunder » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:23 pm

Thanks a lot Mr. Prophet.

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Post by MrProphet » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:29 pm

I liked the panel where the characters are represented as marionettes, pulled by the unseen arms (of Souhaku, I presume). The way Oh!great drew them could somewhat indicate his attitude toward the characters, but there are also mysteries.

Aya is dressed as a Queen (yeah, a drama queen). Nagi is the Court Jester (obviously). Masataka is dressed as the Pope (alluding to his celibacy?)

Bob is somewhat of a mystery. He has some kind of a poncho, and the scull wand could refer to voodoo magic, but Bob is Brazilian, he isn't connected to any of this.

Kurei is obviously an Alien in a sauser. Dougen is a shriveled old monkey. Isuzu is a faceless blade.

Mitsuomi and Fu Chi'en are represented as robotic killing machines (also pretty straightforward). Who's the skeleton? Another representation of Fu?

Maya is another mystery. She seems to be dressed in a traditional Japanese kimono and bound by linien sheets, but her arm is skeletal. What is Oh!great alluding to? Does he mean Maya is half-dead? Doesn't seem so. Any ideas?

And what do those crashdummy heads imply? Are they leading to Mitsuomi or Maya? Do they mean their followers that are just sacrificial meat to Souhaku? The Red Feathers?

The volume really intruduced interesting imagery. Mitsuomi and Souichiro as a two-headed lion that bites at itself?

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Post by Hollowshingami » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm

Thanks. :D That was some good stuff he added.

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Post by Sleepy Weasel » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:19 pm

MrProphet wrote: Maya is another mystery. She seems to be dressed in a traditional Japanese kimono and bound by linien sheets, but her arm is skeletal. What is Oh!great alluding to? Does he mean Maya is half-dead? Doesn't seem so. Any ideas?
The linien looks more like bandaids, gause for healing (if it were part of a dress, there would be an order to the way they are wrapped, it would look more neat). I still think she will live, one way or another, if not survive incapcitated for a while, she may still be possessed by Souhaku (or come back in some way by his doing). Check out the last line in chp 88. I think it refers to maya.

of course the re-worked vol 14 may have some answers. there has got to be a reason he re-did so much of it.

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Post by MrProphet » Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:33 am

The linien looked more like the sheets women used to bind their chest. Of course, it could be both.

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Post by EliteF22 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:15 am

I thought the last line of ch. 88 was alluding to Souichirou. Before he disliked Mitsuomi, because he was opposing Maya. Now it seems that he might actually hate Mitsuomi and under the right circumstance might seriously consider killing Mitsuomi. Inue may try to nurture that and turn Souichirou into a killing machine.

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Post by MrProphet » Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:34 am

Personally, I thought "evil malice" referred to Inue.

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Post by EliteF22 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:29 am

We'll have to wait for the answer I guess. The extras added to volume 14 are awesome though. Some of it appears to be done by his assistants. There's style differences. Whoever did the demon dragon form, of I'm guessing Souichirou, did an awesome job. The design screams "I'm a badass motherf@cker and I'll eat you alive."

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Post by shouki » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:09 am

MrProphet wrote:I liked the panel where the characters are represented as marionettes, pulled by the unseen arms (of Souhaku, I presume). The way Oh!great drew them could somewhat indicate his attitude toward the characters, but there are also mysteries.

Aya is dressed as a Queen (yeah, a drama queen). Nagi is the Court Jester (obviously). Masataka is dressed as the Pope (alluding to his celibacy?)
I'd be a bit surprised if Aya's supposed to imply "drama queen"...

I like the 凶 character on Nagi's forehead.

I was wondering for a bit if the was a chess thing going here - eg Queen, Bishop etc. But none of the others map in obvious ways.

Mitsuomi and Fu Chi'en are represented as robotic killing machines (also pretty straightforward). Who's the skeleton? Another representation of Fu?
Shin, perhaps...

Maya is another mystery. She seems to be dressed in a traditional Japanese kimono and bound by linien sheets, but her arm is skeletal. What is Oh!great alluding to? Does he mean Maya is half-dead? Doesn't seem so. Any ideas?
I think Maya just has puppet arms (and hands). It's just with her, you can see them fully. The wrappings around her chest look like typical "warrior woman" style.


And what do those crashdummy heads imply? Are they leading to Mitsuomi or Maya? Do they mean their followers that are just sacrificial meat to Souhaku? The Red Feathers?
Hmm... Many possibilities.

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Post by FuguTabetai » Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:52 pm

thank you Mr. Prophet, I've downloaded it and will take a look. I don't think I'll translate it, although if someone would point out what pages are new I'll post a translation of the text. Maybe someone can take my vol. 14 translation and the new text and work a new edited translation. It isn't something I'm interested in doing though. :)

Also, I'll be running some sort of contest for the alternate volume 14 cover, I just haven't figured out what yet. :)

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Post by Sleepy Weasel » Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:30 am

I am making a list of changes atm, I have found that in addition to the new pages he has also changed a LOT of pages by rewording everything people say (in some cases whole pages).

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Post by kk1 » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:15 am

Wow, I can't belive how much he added, especially to the young Makiko and Souhaku part. We must not have been the only ones confused by his original chapters. Should be interesting to see what this adds to the story. Looks like he's trying to use the ladybug theme again, remeber before when Nagi's mom was talking to him he saw the world from the pov of the ladybug. It seems in the Maya/Tetsuhito the ladybug was representing Aya. I wonder whose new power we see Tetsuhito use is? Turning guys into balls of flesh, interesting.

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Post by EliteF22 » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:09 am

Souhaku was still a teenager at that point, so I don't think that Tet's had the dragons' put into him already. Could be the Kagiroi family's technique, he used it on zombie Fu if I remember correctly. Stepped on him when Fu was talking to Masataka. Aya was using the ladybug to activate Reiki. She actually was able to take it over, probably using the same technique that Makiko used on Souichirou. Don't think he showed that in the UJ versions. Must have wanted to close that plot hole.

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Post by Natsume Maya » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:14 am

MrProphet wrote:WOW... what the hell? Oh!great changed A LOT of images, and if I am not mistaken, some of the story.
This isn't the first time Oh! great has done this sort of thing. I don't recall it happening on Tenjou Tenge before (not that I've checked) but it certainly happened with Devil. New scenes/pages were added and dialogue changed for the collected volumes.
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Post by Sota » Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:42 pm

in vol 13 too,he add a new escene
but vol 14 is too much new material :O!

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Post by MrProphet » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:51 pm

In vol 13, the only thing that was added was a new spread in chapter 81, with Tessen powering up before his fight Souichiro. No new dialogue.

Personally, I'd love to see a v2 of Vol14. You know, to have them both for a complete picture.

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Post by Agent_Wax » Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:24 am

I'm in Taiwan right now, and picked up my copy at Animate Taipei on Sunday. After going through it, I'm compelled to applaud Great Sensei. Excellent showmanship on his part adding all that new material so we can get our money's worth. I haven't had the chance to read in detail the text, though.
EliteF22 wrote:Souhaku was still a teenager at that point, so I don't hink that Tet's had the dragons' put into him already. Could be the Kagiroi family's technique, he used it on zombie Fu if I remember correctly.
Err, Kagiroi doesn't have a family technique. And the technique he used on Fu was a leg technique. I initially thought that Souhaku was a teenager as well, as he was wearing the same jacket as in that flashback with Makiko. But note the tattoos spreading from Tetsuhito's eye. That had to have taken place after he took her eye. Apparently there IS a Dragon Ball technique. :P Oh, and those guys he was turning into meatballs were from the Mawari branch family, Enjyaku, BTW.

Judging from the Pg 165-166 spread in Fight 86, Maya might very well not survive...
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