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Natsume Danjou Maya.
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Shoot, already? I'm just about to hop a plane to Singapore and Malaysia (for a friend's wedding and to visit a friend respectively.) Hope I can grab a copy of this while I'm over there.
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Wow time is flying, looks like the dude from Tetsuhito's ancestor story.
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OMG I CANT WAIT !!!! iv been waiting forever for this one :lol: 8)
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whos that in the right corner?
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Post by MrProphet »

Yeah, it's that general allright. The girl on the side looks like the one he raped... Somewhat. We'll see tomorrow.
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Post by Agent_Wax »

Sorry, I might have missed it, but has Fugu translated F88?
"Swallow your food whole, fool! Do you not know that mastication makes you go blind?"
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Umm, yeah.
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For those wondering, it doesn't look like Maya is dead...
http://ultra.shueisha.co.jp/UJ109/UJ109_tenjotenge.html
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Re: Fight 89

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Natsume Maya wrote:For those wondering, it doesn't look like Maya is dead...
http://ultra.shueisha.co.jp/UJ109/UJ109_tenjotenge.html
Yay! :D Merry Christmas Charlie Brown! I knew being good would pay off this year :wink:
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Woot. :D
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http://www.s-manga.net/mens/uj/tenjou-w.swf
thanks you for pic

Why is oda nobunaga and his wife(kikyo or something) on the pic?
lol
This pic is time when nobunaga was surrounded by Achechi Mitsuhide (spell?) at Honnozi temple.

I don't know about Oh great's intention with this pic, but he should make a good story out of it because manga/game popular culture in general puts him as evil demon king figure.

In real history, he was talented but merciless time to time.
Achechi Mitsuhide attacked him but no one knows why.
But, Achechi Mitsuhide lost his mother because of Nobunaga. When Mitsuhide gain surrender from an enemy, Mitsuhide promised his enemies that he will spare their life. but Nobunaga order and kill those enemies. few weeks later, dead enemies servents/followers kidnapped Mitsuhide's old mother and kill her in the moutain.

There are also issues with Nobunaga not treating his men fairly.
But, he was famous for his dancing and singing.
Known to be one of three unifier of Japan.

I really hope Oh great does not put Nobunaga as a part of 12 main family, or have secret relationship with Nobunaga during the war era.

Just cannot wait for raw
p.s: http://ultra.shueisha.co.jp/UJ109/UJ109_tenjotenge.html this is pic for new volume 14 of tenten. nothing to do with new chapter
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Post by Sleepy Weasel »

wooot!! i knew it~ <3 maya


notice how you can not see her face tho :(

i think we are seeing the results of his head getting chopped off (and the last line of ch 88)
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Post by Sleepy Weasel »

Kyu1982 wrote:p.s: http://ultra.shueisha.co.jp/UJ109/UJ109_tenjotenge.html this is pic for new volume 14 of tenten. nothing to do with new chapter

thats from the ultra jump site, preview of chapter 89
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Kyu1982 wrote:
Why is oda nobunaga and his wife(kikyo or something) on the pic?
lol
Interesting stuff, how do you know that's him from the picture?
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Post by Agent_Wax »

He doesn't.

http://www.artsales.com/ARTistory/image ... bunaga.jpg

There's some resemblance, but it doesn't have to be him.

For the record, Nobunaga was killed in the Honnoji temple during the morning siege of June 21st 1582. The siege was led by Akechi Mitsuhide, his ex-retainer who had reason to want his head.
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Oda Nobunaga is really popular as far as Evil Villains go. He is all over the place...8)

PS Oh, and Nobunaga wasn't killed. He commited suicide when surrounded.
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Agent_Wax wrote:He doesn't.

http://www.artsales.com/ARTistory/image ... bunaga.jpg

There's some resemblance, but it doesn't have to be him.

For the record, Nobunaga was killed in the Honnoji temple during the morning siege of June 21st 1582. The siege was led by Akechi Mitsuhide, his ex-retainer who had reason to want his head.
hmm, Mitsuhide seemed to have issues and dreams. But killed by Toyotomi Hideyoshi later (surprised attack I believe) so no one knows true intention of his attack besides his ambition for power and grudge.

He commited suicide, but no one found his body because temple burned down to ground.

It is Oda Nobunaga. I think Oh, great followed popular culture version of Oda Nobunaga in this pic. You found nice pic agent wax. If you compare with other pics of Oda Nobunaga from manga and movies, there are very similar or same except Oh. Great version has nice ab muscles. lol

If you look at the background of pic, there is fire. more than anything, he is in temple with his wife(woman who playing drum). According to history, Oda and his wife both died druing attack but no one found their bodies, so there are many mangas and fictions about possibility of nobunaga's survival .

I do not know much about Japanese dancing, but his dancing was famous.

So, in the Japanese movies, Oda Nobunaga dances at least one time in the movies. Watch Kagemusha done by Akira Kurosawa. Nobunaga was well portrayed in the movie
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Sorry for double post

I decide to do double post because I seem to write too much last time.

Anyway, I think Oh. Great wants to point out the relationship between martial arts and dance. Mitsuomi once explain this to Ami.

I really cannot come up with any other idea about chapter cover.
A man in the pic is 100% Nobunaga.
I hope Oh Great just uses him as an example for relationship between warrior and dancing. If he uses an idea like nobunaga used a super human soldier like Tetsuhito for winning his batttle, it might be a little disappointment because this concept is used by many mangas and fictions.

p.s: when does new Ultra jump come out? I forgot the date.
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19th, today.
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A man in the pic is 100% Nobunaga.
While it's highly likely, I'm just saying we can't be certain until we actually read the chapter.
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Agent_Wax wrote:
A man in the pic is 100% Nobunaga.
While it's highly likely, I'm just saying we can't be certain until we actually read the chapter.
And now that I look closer it doesn't look like the same guy in Tetsuhito's story.
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Agent_Wax wrote:
A man in the pic is 100% Nobunaga.
While it's highly likely, I'm just saying we can't be certain until we actually read the chapter.
I am sure 100%. (For example, he is only daimyo who never shaved his head. at least in modern popular culture's view)
But as I said, I just don't know why Oh Great used him.

One in Tetsuhito's story was based on very old myth in Japan.
It is not related to new chapter pic.

Nobunaga killed many people during his time, and people were scared of him and some called him demon king or similar many manga and fiction novel used his nick name and link him with demon or dark forces because he won many battles that he should lose or he did not have much chances.

Well, If Oh great uses him in ten ten, I think oh great might make a story of men like Tetsuhito under Nobunaga's command as I said previously. But if oh great does, he will degrade Tenten into Samurai deeper Kyo level( do you guys know what it means to be the same level as Samurai deeper Kyo?, this is manga with no strong story line, and writer forcefully extend the plot; I think for his paycheck).

As a great fan of TenTen, I will be sad if that happens.
But, my wild guess is that this front pic has nothing to do with Tenten.
Maybe, Oh great wanted to use Nobunaga to compare with Sohaku.
Seems like both like dance with fan
have grand dream. Oda = unifying japan
Sohaku = unifying bloodline
they both killed alot of people.
just cannot wait for raw.
I think Sohaku will be back. Naruto's orochimaru and Kabuto from Get backers' style come back.
If Sohaku move into Nagi, it will be fun.
Mitsuomi will be one who will lose his head this time

in the end, I think Masataka will be dead, too
When Mataza attacked Ise's temple. Enma, head of priestess women, said that blood line of Takayanagi will be ended before she got punched again.
Takayanagi's blood line might survive, but I think takayanagi will lose all of its power in the end. I think main event/key factor will be in this chapter
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Kyu1982 wrote: But, my wild guess is that this front pic has nothing to do with Tenten.
If Sohaku move into Nagi, it will be fun.
Yeah, I think it's just one of those splash pages OG likes to do at the beginning of a chapter (like Aya on a battle ship, nothing to do with the chapter). Hmm Souhaku into Nagi, that could explain why he wanted him to get all the dragon gates first, just to power him up before he takes over.
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Where can i download that manga figth
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Post by MrProphet »

Here it is, my friends. 8)

http://mrprophet.com/temp/v15c89.zip

And yes, the warrior with the fan is Oda Nobunaga. But he is also the same general, who raped that girl and sired Kagiroi's ancestor.

BTW, you wouln't believe the way it ended. 8)

The good news is - Maya is alive, although barely so. And Oh!great really is a ultimate grandmaster of ecchiness. He manages to make a ghost look sexy and wanting to get it on. 8)
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Hmm, my response to this chapter = What the hell!?

Well, it does look like Souichirou becomes Souhaku's replacement.
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Post by Sleepy Weasel »

why did mits take reikii away from maya? :/ donsen't she kinda need that?
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I'll echo that statement. This chapter is the ultimate case of "WTF?!"
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She doesn't, since Aya can't channel any more ki to Maya through Reiki. There is no need to fight, and anyway, she was in no condition to hold it.
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Plus, as he's stated before, he wants that sword back in Takayanagi possession.
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I wonder if the sword that Nobunaga's concubine was holding is actually the original Reiki....

Seems like the frills were stripped over the years, but the actual blade is the same.

PS It was funny how Nobunaga though that Souhaku was Akechi Mitsuhide... 8)
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My favorite moment in this chapter is Maya falling into Mitsoumi's arms. So cute.

And this scene:
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lol. :lol:
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Post by Kyu1982 »

lol.
I did not see this one coming.
So, how old is damn sohaku?

btw, why did sohaku kill Nobunaga?

that prostitute in the chapter looks like Aya.
So, Aya worked in that field during her last life. hmm, interesting!!
(turning into hentai mode)

lol, anyway, it was good chapter. I wonder who was a guy in the carrier.
He must visit that place to see her. Wild guess = masataka in last life.
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MrProphet wrote:I wonder if the sword that Nobunaga's concubine was holding is actually the original Reiki....

Seems like the frills were stripped over the years, but the actual blade is the same.

PS It was funny how Nobunaga though that Souhaku was Akechi Mitsuhide... 8)
More interesting is her name is Aya...

Did Aya just get sucked back in time? :?
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That's what it seems like. Is it me or does Nobunaga have a slight hint of that forked eyebrow thing? 8) It seems like the "other" Aya is the one from the past. Well I guess that Tetsuhito was really showing his age in death. :shock:
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The girl could be the ancestor of Natsume. Since Aya can see the past through her ghost form, she could have went back to see how the whole mess started.

If Takayanagi are indeed the scions of Oda family (weird, but not impossible), it could also explain why Maya and her boy-toy were arguing about Reiki. Could it be that the concubine (later geiko) and her descendants, the Natsume, became the wardens of Reiki after Nobunaga's death, but Mitsuomi now claims it as belonging to him?

I know, it's REALLY farfetched, but it's a theory... 8)
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Kyu1982 wrote:lol.
I did not see this one coming.
So, how old is damn sohaku?

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See I was right http://mangatranslation.com/cgi-bin/php ... c&start=50
that old gun wasn't just a fancy old antique Souhaku and Tetsuhito really were very old. Or at least I'm assuming that's what Tetsuhito's shriveled head and the Souhaku flashback are indicating. 8)
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really did not know.
hmm, as I said, I think it is Aya's past life(what do we call it in English?)

BTW, do we have to wait another year for school fight?

there will more past story.
one month for each chapter.

omg. this will be another long Ten Ten year lol
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I think it would be sweet if they did another past arch. its almost getting to the point where he is going to have to :(

there is so much unexplained stuff
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Sleepy Weasel wrote:I think it would be sweet if they did another past arch. its almost getting to the point where he is going to have to :(

there is so much unexplained stuff
I will like it, too.
man, when did Tenten start?
I forgot the exact date lol

If it hits another 2-3 volume past arc, it will be another 1-2 year.

I like story but wait time is downfall.
Oh Great should release this manga in weekly magazine and put Air gear in monthly magazine. lol
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Oh I don't think we're going to get a whole arc(I think that's the reason OG changed and added so much to vol 14 so he didn't have to waste space in the new vol), there's too much going on in the present. New characters, Dougen doing something, Nagi just got...somethinged, and Bob is still MIA.
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TJTG came out in 1998...

But I doubt will have an extended past-past arc, since there won't be Maya or Mitsuomi or any other main character, so Oh!great wouldn't do it.

I mean, we all thought he's going to do an extended flashback on Souhaku/Makiko story, but he only used Aya as a plot device to explore that past.
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But, I think there might 2-3 ch at least for past arc if this is important issue.

Then, new Souhaku + Nagi fusion mode.
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Ugh... pleeeease... we've had enough Nagi Dragonball already!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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I'm kinda hoping that we don't see new Souichirou until the last tournament match between Jyukenbu and Enforcement Group. Feel like it would be more dramatic that way.

Maya didn't actually fall into Mit's arms. More like she was falling down and then he went and caught her. I feel the ships sailed on that relationship, despite that they still have feelings for each other.
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Hey, on page 12 bottom panel the guys surrounding Souichirou appear to be the (original?) heads of the 12 founding families. Who are the two that are missing? I'm guessing that Souhaku as head of Kago could be one, but who's the other family? Does this mean that most of the families wanted the blood to be unified.
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EliteF22 wrote:I'm kinda hoping that we don't see new Souichirou until the last tournament match between Jyukenbu and Enforcement Group. Feel like it would be more dramatic that way.

Maya didn't actually fall into Mit's arms. More like she was falling down and then he went and caught her. I feel the ships sailed on that relationship, despite that they still have feelings for each other.
I think Nagi will show up at tournament and chop off Mitsuomi's head like meron. crush his arm like what he did to his mom.

Btw, is maya dead? I hope she is alive. but I think she is 99.95 % dead. 0.05% for some special Oh great magic of revival.

[quote="MrProphet"Ugh... pleeeease... we've had enough Nagi Dragonball already!!!!

it will happen. well, it won't be Dragonball fusion. It will be close to Orochimaru style from Naruto or Kabuto style from Get Backers.

I think in the end Oh great has to put either Masataka or Aya(maybe, both) to fight and defeat Souhaku + Nagi.

Masataka is brave but he won't match for Souhaku. I also don't give much point to Mitsuomi, too. Mitsuomi gain his power by dragon kii or curse by Shin ealier in manga and + alot of steroid. I also think Souhaku prepared tons of army under his command.

In the end, there will be war. seems like Maya's plan to stopping war won't happen.
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