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English Tokyopop Manga Recommendations

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:19 pm
by pv82
Hello
I had a question, A buddy of mine is trying to sell his tokyopop manga collection, and he asked me if I wanted some titles. I wanted to know if there was any good Tokyopop English manga anyone can recommend to me. I have never bought english manga so I don't know what to buy?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:45 pm
by FuguTabetai
Great Teacher Onidzuka rocks hard.

That was my first manga ever, and I still love it. Got the whole 25 volume Japanese collection right here... Guess I'll have to sell it soon too though, along with my TJTG collection.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:34 pm
by pv82
Thanks Fugu. Unfortunately for me that the only thing he's not selling. Says it to precios to part with. What an Ass :P . He;s sellng me his Battle Vixens, Rebirth??, and King of Hell??

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:50 pm
by moyism
none of those titles are worth it. Esp. Battle Vixens, that translations went down the tube. :cry:

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:51 am
by Dembol
Is it only me or the title "Battle Vixens" is really dumb?? I know that titles are often changed in translations to something completely different due to marketing reasons, but "Ikkitousen" sounds so much better. At least for me.

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:26 am
by FuguTabetai
Yes, the Ikkitousen -> Battle Vixens name changes was one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen. I think the audience for Manga, in general, would find a strange Japanese name much cooler than a stupid American one.

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:43 pm
by pv82
Ikkitousen = Strenght of A THousand???

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:40 pm
by Mataza-kun
Yeah I've heard it means "Warrior who has the strenght of a thousend men" or something like that.. it just rocks why change it? :O

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:46 pm
by FuguTabetai
Mataza-kun wrote:Yeah I've heard it means "Warrior who has the strenght of a thousend men" or something like that.. it just rocks why change it? :O
Yes, more than that, it refers to a specific character from a historical (mythological by now) battle. I don't know much about it myself, but they would have done much better to keep that title, and add some of the historical background to the books (particularly, the spectacularly lame IMHO but at least interesting, ties to the romance of the 12 kingdoms history that it was following.)

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:18 am
by Guest
The story would have been alot better if they would have stuck to the Romance of the 12 Kingdoms acurately. But that didn't happen, in fact at times I thought I was watching an early verison of Tenge tenjo anime. Girl witn powers appears, Girl makes a big ruckus by fighting everyone, Girls is targeted by some sort of enforcement group, Girl enters Tournament, etc... Then they lose the Tournament :? And everything goes doen the crapper.

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:43 am
by burrowowl
Anonymous wrote:The story would have been alot better if they would have stuck to the Romance of the 12 Kingdoms acurately.
I'm pretty sure they couldn't accurately follow the story from the Romance of the 12 Kingdoms and have the story take place in Japan. :)

Anyhow, it's a silly title, and is getting about the quality of translation, packaging, and re-titling that it deserves. Enjoy, if you are so inclined.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:34 pm
by pv82
I went ahead and Got KIng of hell 1-5 and Battle Vixens for 10 bucks. I figure if I don't like them I atleast have 10$ worth of TP. :P

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:06 am
by Agent_Wax
Uhm... just to point out. That's Romance of the 3 Kingdoms.

And Ikkitousen gets much better in the later volumes. And Tokyopop mangas are pretty much all shit.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:35 am
by Guest
Agent_Wax wrote:And Ikkitousen gets much better in the later volumes. And Tokyopop mangas are pretty much all shit.
I just finished Battle Vixens Vol. 2, :cry: :x :evil: . Keith Giffen has to be one of the worst English Adapters ever. His slang is so wierd, that I have to read the bubbles 2 and 3 times to understand what the hell he is trying to say. Not to mention the excessive use of the word Fuck. I don't mind hearing or reading it, but after its used 7 and 8 times in one page, It loses its meaning. Tokyopop needs to fire him, burn everything he's worked on and rerelease what he's finished.

Anyways, I did get into King of Hell. Its not that bad, not to mention the adaptation was not done by Giffen. I could see this being made into anime, I sure would watch it.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:42 am
by Starakin
Keith Giffen has to be one of the worst English Adapters ever
I second that...
The adaption of Battle Royale is quite horrible. To the point you'd prefere looking at the pictures alone without reading.
The problem imo is for TP to put up with such script. If they think it is such a great thing then... no comments.

Girl13 telling Sugimura: Buncha dumbass juvies brace you and you damn near wet your pants! -v6p38-
does people really speak like that, talk about a couple of friends even.... :?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:25 am
by pv82
Starakin wrote:does people really speak like that, talk about a couple of friends even.... :?
Battle Vixens Vol.2 Page 146
Shigi to Hakufu
" 'Less you got more goin' F' Y' than them titties, I'd advise stayin' down F' Th' count. Dig?"

WTF :?

Hey, did Tokyopop aleast do a good job on Getbackers?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:15 am
by Dembol
LOL.
Those translated pieces are like hearing old people tryin' to sound cool and not quite succeeding in it, because they use weird slang that nobody uses or understands.
Couldn't they translate it to the language of normal people?? Without slang.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:21 am
by FuguTabetai
pv82 wrote:Hey, did Tokyopop aleast do a good job on Getbackers?
I'm curious about that two - I liked the first 3 volumes of GetBackers that I read (in Japanese.)

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:34 pm
by I <3 Chun Li
FuguTabetai wrote: That was my first manga ever, and I still love it. Got the whole 25 volume Japanese collection right here... Guess I'll have to sell it soon too though, along with my TJTG collection.
Is the Tenten collection actually volumes or are they from Ultra Jump?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:21 pm
by FuguTabetai
I <3 Chun Li wrote:
FuguTabetai wrote: That was my first manga ever, and I still love it. Got the whole 25 volume Japanese collection right here... Guess I'll have to sell it soon too though, along with my TJTG collection.
Is the Tenten collection actually volumes or are they from Ultra Jump?
Volumes 1-11 from Japan.

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:17 pm
by Guest
FuguTabetai wrote:
I <3 Chun Li wrote:
FuguTabetai wrote: That was my first manga ever, and I still love it. Got the whole 25 volume Japanese collection right here... Guess I'll have to sell it soon too though, along with my TJTG collection.
Is the Tenten collection actually volumes or are they from Ultra Jump?
Volumes 1-11 from Japan.
Did TenTen start in Ultra Jump or did Ultra Jump pick it up Later?

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:36 am
by FuguTabetai
I don't know, but typically manga are serialized first, and then released in collected volumes.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:30 am
by Guest
FuguTabetai wrote:
I <3 Chun Li wrote:
FuguTabetai wrote: That was my first manga ever, and I still love it. Got the whole 25 volume Japanese collection right here... Guess I'll have to sell it soon too though, along with my TJTG collection.
Is the Tenten collection actually volumes or are they from Ultra Jump?
Volumes 1-11 from Japan.

^_^ I'll be glad to buy them off you

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:33 am
by I <3 Chun Li
Whoops forgot to sign in, thats my post up there btw

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:36 pm
by shogun gekomon
battle vixens rules!
...as you may have guessed my manga intrests center around fighting and porn :lol:
but i didnt think the translation was that bad, i got the jist of it.
p.s which is the better company, viz or tokyopop? i like viz, especially since they started doing "The Guyver", thats my fave manga ever, a bit messy at times but it kicks ass.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:26 am
by kujoe
I'm not sure about Viz, but as far as Tokyopop's GTO is concerned--I'd say they need more time in editing (or a better editor if need be). The manga is mostly suffering from minor errors, which makes me more critical of such things. It looks terribly rushed sometimes.

With regard to translation on the other hand, I think the translator did a relatively good job--at least it's got none of the pitfalls that plagued the scripts of Battle Vixens. Plus, most of the characters--if not all--sound natural enough for their roles.

Heh. I agree with your friend's decision of not selling his GTO collection, pv82. :twisted:

I definitely wouldn't part me with mine either--even if it was by Tokyopop.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:00 am
by FuguTabetai
GTO is my favorite manga of all time. I translated up to volume 9 or 10, if anyone is curious and wants to see my stuff. they are online somewhere, buthonestly I'm a bit too ... uh, blasted not wo figure out where theyare.

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:59 am
by kujoe
I just want to take back some of the stuff I've said regarding Tokyopop's work on GTO. I feel there has been gradual improvement with the way its GTO staff has handled this manga, and it's quite evident in volume 19. On the other hand, it sometimes becomes difficult to read some of the text that are tucked way too deep within the spine of the book. I'm not the type to open a book that wide, but it's not a big deal overall.

I also forgot to mention that Uchiyamada's musings in particular (from the previous volumes) are also worded out well in English. And best of all, it's not as if Tokyopop's work on GTO started out bad. (unlike the Initial D anime, to the horror of its fans...*cough*cough* :roll: )

With that said, I hope this level of quality doesn't end in volume 19. So yes, if any of you ever decides to pick up a manga licensed by Tokyopop, GTO is definitely the way to go. :wink:

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:45 am
by moyism
^ one day... one day when I have $$$ to burn. 19+ x $10 = $190+

yea... gotta wait on that plus the other several mangas I'm trying to keep update on. lol

Oh yea, just recently picked up two mangas since Suncoast was having 2 for $15 sale. Video Girl Ai, which was a great OVA plus I loved his other works (DNA^2 and I''s) is a good romance comedy if you like that stuff. Imadoki by the author of Fushigi Yuugi is another good old high school romance comedy w/o the usual flare of myths and powers. Good stuff.

haha.. both are done by VIZ which I just realized. I think they handle translations and whatnot slightly better than Tokyopop but yea... :D